Holden: Alright, High Cascade Session Three. Here I am with Austin Smith, check it out. So right now we are talking and you haven't been on hill with us because of a knee injury, so what happened with the knee injury?
Austin: I've been dealing with a knee injury for the past three years now. Got hurt a few years ago, at camp actually, and then just haven't been able to get it fixed basically. I'll get surgery, I'll do rehab for a year, and then it gives out again basically. And this year was no different, the first day I went snowboarding this year in November I blew out my knee. But I mentally couldn't really handle missing another season. So I just wore my brace and rode the season without an ACL. Which kinda sucked but I got to go on some super sweet trips between then. I didn't get to snowboard very much for myself; I was pretty much just only filming because snowboarding would usually kinda hurt. So I was pretty much snowboarding to film. But so I waited until the end of the season to get this last surgery. I got a new doctor and a new surgery. So this time it should all be good, third time’s a charm.
Holden: Yeah obviously that doesn't sound like a fun time. Third time hopefully is a charm, knock on wood or whatever you want to do. I gotta say you still have a lot of dedication to come chill and have a good time with the campers. How did you end up here at High Cascade as a camper?
Austin: I think I came to High Cascade as a camper when I was 14. Jesse Burtner was my coach; I was in a group with Gus Engle, Johnny Miller, Cam Egan, and there were a couple more all-stars in there as well but I forget. It was where I wanted to be, I wanted to go to summer snowboard camp. I didn't have a lot of money growing up so I had to work for a couple years to get money, my parents helped me out. I live super close [Bend, Oregon] which makes it easy because I didn't have to fly here. I came to camp, was so psyched. The following year I got to get a job here and I was 15 or 16. I was pretty lucky; a good friend of mine was the head digger. You normally have to be 18 to work here [HCSC] but he hired me when I was 15 or 16 or something crazy like that. I worked here for three years as a digger and I would say those were the best times of my life.
Holden: So that was a little memory lane; Gus Engle, Johnny Miller, all-star group of riders. Any crazy camp memory for example, like throwing toilet paper on the roof of The Lodge or something wild like that?
Austin: Nah I just skateboarded and snowboarded every day. I didn't do many of the activities just skateboarded and snowboarded every day and was super tired at night. Yeah, I guess not too many antics. I was a super nervous camper; I didn't know too many people at my session but best time of my life at the end of it. Working here was amazing though.
Holden: So yeah after you came here as a camper and then you were working here as a digger. Has that kind of influenced you to say, "Hey I wanna come back and do a Signature Session". How did you work it out with High Cascade?
Austin: Yeah, I was pretty blown away they just asked me if I wanted to do a signature session and obviously I said, "Yes that would be amazing". It was an honor. I use to be on the High Cascade team when they had one so I've always been good friends with Preston and the people that run High Cascade and so they asked to do the signature session, I was psyched. And I was even hurt at the time, so for them to ask to do one when I was hurt it kinda meant a lot because they were trying to help me stay in the game a little bit, keep me doing stuff so I don't get to depressed.
Holden: Sweet. So how do you think about these kids coming here? Or like the current trend of the average snowboard kid? Do they remind you of yourself or any people around you at the time when you were growing up and riding?
Austin: Yeah, coming back to camp and seeing the kids. All season we are traveling, snowboarding, filming, doing this and that, going to different events and mostly just hanging out with the different people within the industry, hanging out with team managers, and hanging out with other pro snowboarders. It’s just really good, this is like my favorite time of the year to come back and see the kids that are actually psyched on snowboarding. There are a lot of team managers or pro snowboarders that are a little bit burnt out and kind of have some bad attitudes. So coming back and seeing all the kids that are psyched, seeing the kids that read the magazines and watch every single video, it reminds me of what I'm doing this for.
Holden: Yeah, so speaking about magazines I got one here, it’s the Transworld Snowboarding April issue with you on the cover. For the cover shot you are in New Zealand, looking super rad.
Austin: Yeah, one of the best trips of my life.
Holden: Remember anything from that cover shot? It looks like you are doing front one nose bonk 180 out?
Austin: No I'm doing a switch backside 180 over the fence.
Holden: Sorry. Completely blew it on guessing the trick.
Austin: This was my first time in New Zealand. Transworld called me and asked me to go on a trip. First time I ever got to go heli snowboarding. [The day of the cover shot] was the first day we actually showed up to New Zealand. I put my bindings on backwards, my left foot was in the right binding and my right foot was in the left binding and I just snowboarded like that for the day. Everyone was making fun of me because I didn't know how to put my bindings on. But it still worked out in the end, I guess. It was an amazing trip, we went heli boarding with Pat Moore [another Signature Sessioner from Session 3], Robbie Walker, and a bunch of other good people. Yeah man, heli snowboarding was awesome, New Zealand was awesome. I was super excited to go down there it was a good trip for sure.
Holden: So that cover shot relates to the main article in that Transworld issue about you and a bunch of the bros going down to New Zealand. The intent of the trip was to do the Second Annual Hemisphere challenge for Transworld but that fell through and you guys still went. You have been telling me that a big part of the trip was heli snowboarding for the first time, any other sweet memories from that trip?
Austin: Yeah it wasn't all about heli snowboarding, we went to like six different resorts and just for I think two of the days we went heli shredding and it was so much fun. We also, I think there is a photo on a few of the pages, us sinking a rental van. We were driving the van around New Zealand and there was this huge puddle, so we drove through the side of it. Then we had the photographer [Nick Hamilton] get out because we were gonna try drive through the middle of it. But when we drove through the middle of it, a wave of water came over the hood and stalled out the van and it somewhat sank into the pond/lake [notice how earlier he was calling it a puddle] and Joe Carlino, who makes Videograss movies worked for Transworld at the time, he had to take off all of his clothes get all the other camera gear out of the van. It was amazing; it was definitely a funny moment. We had to get a new rental car, that one got towed away. It added to the trip, that's for sure.
Holden: The caption for your cover shot it mentioned that you had recently won the 2007 Transworld Snowboarding Rookie of the Year. Was this shot your first cover or did you have one before this one?
Austin: This is my first cover. This is kinda like a lot of stuff. Things were going really well for me right then. Yeah, I got a cover for Transworld which is... A lot of pro snowboarders, a lot of insanely good pro snowboarders will never get a cover for Transworld. And for me to get one, I think I was 17 or 18 then, it was definitely a dream come true. A dream come true to win Rookie of the Year; A dream come true to win Video Part of the Year; Dream come true to get a cover. It was awesome...and then I got hurt.
Holden: ...And then you got hurt. So I did some math and the year that you got Rookie of the Year was the year that I started snowboarding seriously, which led me to follow the magazines and the videos which I think is pretty awesome. Did you really expect Rookie of the Year or was it "Boom, Rookie of the Year, this is happening"?
Austin: No you definitely can't expect something like that, especially because that was my first video part that I ever really filmed with a big movie production company. The year before that year that I won all that stuff I filmed with a local Oregon movie production company. I filmed a fun part, I learned how to snowmobile, learned how to do a lot of things then Bryan Fox got me in the People movie the next year. And I filmed a good video part I guess, and I won all these awards and it was like everything was happening so quickly, it was insane. I was still in high school when I filmed that video part; I was a senior in high school.
Holden: Rad. Which People movie was that? Any favorite trick? Anything that you felt like "That was a banger"?
Austin: That was "Were People Too", it was the second People movie. My backlip on that red ledge in Quebec, it’s a big concrete red ledge that goes down then kinks out at the end.
Holden: Down with a flat out
Austin: Big flat out. That trick took me probably 5 hours to land. That one for me was quite the battle and I liked getting it.
Holden: Obviously you have been doing some urban riding. Are you doing backcountry too, or are you hitting it all? Or are you strictly doing backcountry or strictly doing rails or do you just want to hit it all?
Austin: Growing up I always looked up to the dudes that had everything in their part. I always looked up to people that had a well rounded video part, so that’s what I always wanted to have. I'm still trying to do that but now it’s getting a lot more competitive, there is so many kids that are focused just on rails and the progression has shot through the roof. I'm trying to keep up with them and I would like to always have a well rounded video part. I like to get some halfpipe in next year.
Holden: So I had you sign the cover and you wrote to me, "Keep on looking at magazines" and later I told you I read all my magazines cover-to-cover. What do you think about the internet kids and the ones who are like "I need the new video now", everything is on
Youtube, everything is on
Vimeo, everything is coming out within minutes of landing the trick.
Austin: Instant gratification. It makes it hard for us to film a video part all year and have it wait for DVD because people just want immediate satisfaction. But for me, as long as kids are still reading magazines, even if they are just looking on the internet to get cool stuff, as long as they care enough their not just watching X Games, they’re not just watching the Olympics and they want to know what the rest of snowboarding is, what all of snowboarding is, then I’m psyched. I'm okay with the internet I like to see things quick but I also like to see a video part that you can hold on to forever. I like bonus footage [in the DVDs] that’s always my favorite part of the movies.
Holden: I would have to agree with that get and watch the final production and then in the bonus features see a random shot of one of your favorite riders do something kinda random. Something new that you have coming out is this company called Drink Water. Wanna explain what this is all about? Is it combating the Gatorade--Sorry no brand names...the...energy drink world of "competitive snowboarding"?
Austin: It’s gotten to the point where every single video, every event every contest, everything is branded [by and energy drink company]. I go to contest, not very often but when I do go to contests and now when I go they ask me, "What’s your drink sponsor?" and I was like; Man, I think all these drinks are horrible. They don't offer anything to snowboarding, they’re not contributing, their just taking our dignity from us--
Holden: Just shipping out sugar?
Austin: Shipping out sugar. All these snowboarders are buying into it. But what Drink Water is, to not be so negative, is Bryan Fox and I were kinda both hating on energy drinks. That wasn't gonna take us anywhere being negative so Drink Water is us trying to be positive and let kids know you don't have to drink energy drinks to be a pro snowboarder--any type of snowboarder. To have fun you don't have to drink that poison. So we are just trying to let kids know drink water. Most of the pro snowboarders don't actually drink that crap they just lie about it, take the money and run.
Holden: So the next time if you do a contest and they ask what your drink sponsor is, are you gonna say something like: "Mother Nature" or "H2O"?
Austin: I'll just say, "I'm drinking water and keeping my dignity". You can have your Monster dollars and lose your dignity if you want.
Holden: So the idea of all these corporate mega sponsors kind of do you think is the kids selling themselves out?
Austin: I mean no. I have super corporate sponsors, I ride for Nike, and I mean you can't get much more corporate than that.
Holden: Big Swoosh.
Austin: Yeah, but their awesome. They're a little more involved and at the end of the day their selling snowboard boots when Monster is selling poison to kids so I don't feel bad about riding for a cooperation sponsor. I just don't want to sell something I don't believe in. Todd Richards told me this once, because it was after the cover you have, Redbull really wanted me to snowboard for them. I was talking to Todd Richards about it because I didn't know what to do, I didn't really want to do it but it was a lot of money, all you have to do is put a little sticker on your snowboard and it seems pretty easy but it was hard for me to justify [riding for Redbull]. Todd Richards said, "If you aren't going to use it, don't endorse it" so i was like alright that’s pretty easy thing to live my life by; If I don't agree with it don't endorse it because that’s what your telling kids. By endorsing it you back this stuff. But shortly after that he started riding for Rockstar so he kind of lied to me about that one but I'm still doing it.
Holden: So who are you actually endorsing and you’re like "oh I’m down for these kinds of companies, want to run through the sponsor list?
Austin:
Nitro is my snowboard sponsor and their one of the few snowboard only companies, they still do camber, and mostly it’s just good people that work there as well as Nike. Everyone thinks Nike is some huge mega corporation but there’s only like three people that work there within
Nike Snowboarding.
Smith Goggles they are in Idaho which is awesome.
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